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Tuesday, February 8, 2011

Help Me Rescue My Own Roses...

The regular readers here will know that I am a big rescuer of plants from big box stores and nursery centers. I desperately need help in rescuing my own roses. I have never claimed to know anything about roses other than they like sun and water. February 14 is fast approaching. I know that's when I prune my Double Knockout Roses, not pictured, is that when I prune all roses? and how far?

This rose was rooted from one of my mom's old roses a couple of years ago and has grown, uh, pretty well in this container. It has large red roses and likes to ramble some. I somewhat buried the container and wrapped the canes around this trellis. (I accidently left some roses in containers at my old garden and the roots grew through the drainage holes into the ground and they performed much better than the ones I planted directly in the garden)
I believe this is Double Delight...
This is Joseph's Coat that my son gave to me one Mother's Day when he was a little boy.
I had so much hope for this newly acquired climber last year...ordered the old fashioned, bloom forever, big red blooms to climb the lattice and arch over the walk thru with cascading blooms...(operative word--BLOOM) Oh, it bloomed, some, and they were a very interesting bright orange, sigh.
Here is the top of it higher than the 6 ft. lattice....I actually think the first rose featured today is what this one was supposed to be. As you can see I have canes without leaves...HELP ME PLEASE!
I also have another climber on a little trellis that blooms light pink roses, also rooted from one of my Mom's. It's over by an Oak Tree by a Clematis, it is full of leaves and green as it can be...do I prune it too and how?
On a happier note...LOOK! I planted some Liliums on January 7...the Dolly Madison's are up! I also have some Glads up that I planted the some day, now I'm waiting on the Lilium Red Dutch to show up.
Do not pay attention to what Jack Frost did the the Walking Iris in the background they will recover just fine.
While everyone else around the country is receiving snow, we are receiving rain about every other day...
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Today I am Thankful that today is supposed to be a sunny day!

193 comments:

Muddy Boot Dreams said...

I am afraid that I am not much of a rose wrangler. But I do love them immensley.

We had a beautiful Joseph's coat when I was younger, and I see one blooming all summer on my way to work. That will be one of the first varieties that I get when I get my bigger garden.

Jen @ Muddy Boot Dreams

Terra said...

I mustn't give advice and possibly steer you wrong. My roses are tough, thank goodness. You are reminding me to complete pruning mine and to consider feeding them. I am in zone 8-9 too.

Karen said...

Darla, I am hopeless when it comes to roses, the only ones I grow are the Knockout series now and only because they're tough enough to survive my treatment of them. I'll be watching the comments here, too, so I can learn from them!

Betsy from Tennessee said...

Well-I'm sure my hubby can give you some advice. BUT-since we are in different areas, I don't know what to tell you. Pruning them is very important though I do know...

George prunes our WAY back in winter so that they go dormant. When they start growing in spring, he feeds them and babies them all year.

Looks like Spring is definitely coming to Florida!!!!

Hugs,
Betsy

Hocking Hills Gardener said...

Well I am no expert for sure and other rose growers like Chris may know what to do. You may have to prune them back to get more sprouts and leaves going. Many prune them back in the fall but I prune mine in the spring to get the dead wood from winter kill as I prune them up here. They may need some fertilizing in the spring too. Sorry I cannot give you any definitive answer.

sherryocala said...

Darla, I don't exactly know what might be wrong or maybe nothing is wrong that spring and some feeding won't fix. Most of my roses don't have a lot of leaves either because of the freezes we've had. The end of winter is not a good time to judge roses. Some bushes like your Double Delight will need pruning to stimulate them into new growth, some just need warmer, sunny days, and all of them need feeding. Roses are heavy feeders, and our Florida ground doesn't offer much nutrition by itself. I use an organic fert (you can get Rose-Tone at Lowe's), alfalfa pellets and Milorganite. And manure compost to build up the soil and mulch to keep the soil cooler and retain moisture. Water is extremely important, too. The roots can not be allowed to dry out at all. That's very damaging. By the same token they don't like standing water either, but that's probably not a problem for you.

I'm not sure about a climber being in a pot. Once the root system breaks out of the pot I guess it doesn't make much difference, but a big climber (as with any plant) usually has a big root system to take up everything it needs to support its growth.

Reply to me, and we can talk about it. :))

Grace Peterson said...

Darla Dear, It depends on the rose. Shrub roses [floribundas like Knockout] need only tip pruning to remove all the old wood, foliage and hips. Once-blooming climbers bloom on old wood and should be pruned after they bloom. Hybrid teas are the easiest to prune. They can be pruned now. A good rule of thumb [pun intended] is to cut down to canes that are the same diameter as your little finger. Anything smaller should be pruned off because it won't bear good flowers. I can give you more advice via email if you like.

George said...

We don't have any Knockout roses, so I can't offer those as a point of reference. In the Spring I usually wait until the roses (hybrid teas and grandifloras in our case) show the first signs of life. I will then prune back to an outward-growing bud on the strongest canes. I'll completely cut away weak (skinny) canes. A good fertilizer, water and sun should take it from there.

Amy said...

I wish I could help you...i only have knockout roses. Sounds like you are getting some good info. We have another chance of snow this week...crazy!!!

imac said...

Me no gardener - sorry, but I just love that Header Darla.

Søren said...

I do hope you will share any knowledge you get; I have a few roses that desperately need some attention!

Great post, and I look forward to following your blog.

Val said...

Sweet Hunter pruned our roses today. I usually do them but he was in the mood. We are suppose to get snow tomorrow night but it has been sunny and cold. Oops, when I saw what you are thankful for it reminded me that I didn't put that on my last post. I have been trying to keep up with your challenge. It really makes you stop and think.

Twisted Fencepost said...

It is still way too cold here for growing anything outside beside pansies. I have one pot and I noticed earlier today that it is still going. I just think it's the neatest thing that they will continue to grow through the winter.
I can't give you any rose advice. Sorry! LOL

Catherine@AGardenerinProgress said...

Almost none of my roses have leaves on them, I think they lose them every winter. I'll be pruning mine in the next week or so. Sounds like Grace gave great advice. I usually just cut mine down to about half their size. Can't wait to see all those blooms.

Floridagirl said...

Sorry, I can't help either. I only grow knockouts, drift roses, and own-root china roses. I just prune them when I feel like it, any time of year down here.

Meems said...

I have a feeling those roses will perk up when the earth warms but the advice you've gotten about pruning, watering, and feeding sounds like all I've heard about roses.

I only grow (1) standard knockout and, as you know, the OGR Louis Philippe down here ... tip pruning is sufficient but not even necessary and I feed organics.

You might check Tallahassee Native Nursery on Centerville ~I love, love that place~ for the LP). OR if I ever successfully root some I'll be happy to share ~ will try again this spring now that I have some better instruction on how to do it. :-)
Meems

tina said...

Sounds like Grace and others have helped you out with the pruning of the roses. It can be a tricky business for sure. Good luck! I'm sure they'll be blooming big in no time.

CanadianGardenJoy said...

Darla girl i have to make this fast because i am zipping around here to get out the door for an appointment.
BUT !! .. have you ever tried the half cup of Epsoms Salts strategy ??
I did last year and WOW !! it works wonders for roses .. what you do is scratch around where the root stalk is .. sprinkle a half cup of Epsoms ..scratch it in a little more .. not right up against the stalk .. a good watering will start the reaction .. and you do this until frost (for you i have no idea !! LOL) .. and it does wonders .. makes the plant really healthy looking .. great foliage .. fantastic flowers .. it truly is amazing !
I hope you give it a try for a couple of months and cross fingers BANG ! you have a remarkable improvement : )
Joy

Patsy said...

Here in Arkansas we cut them back in mid February. This will be our first time for the knock-out rose so don't know how that will work with it. Good luck

Hartwood Roses said...

From what I see in your photos, I don't see much in the way of pruning that needs to be done. I'm a very pragmatic rose grower ... the only thing I expect pruning to do with my roses is to make them smaller. You cannot count on pruning to revive an already struggling rose, stimulate thicker new growth, or anything else.

With climbers, do not cut the main cane. You can shorten the laterals that come off the main cane, if you want. Train climbers so the canes do not go straight up ... try to get them to at least a 45 degree angle (fannning them out on the trellis is a good idea) and you will get more flowers along the cane, not just at the top.

Your second photo shows a rose that looks like it has a lot of dead wood. I wouldn't cut anything live off of this rose at all this season.

Start the growing season with soluble fertilizer to jumpstart the roses, then you can switch to organic (like Rose Tone that was recommended earlier) after the soil warms. Make sure your roses get plenty of water!

Any other questions? That's what I'm here for. I'll be happy to do whatever I can for you.

Connie

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